In this “cover-to-cover” interview, book coach Ameesha Green and author Adam Jones (AJ1) discuss You Are Going to Fucking Die, a modern memento mori for a society saturated by social media (with a little bit of swearing).
Join book coach Ameesha Green and author Adam Jones (AJ1) as they discuss his book You Are Going to Fucking Die, a modern memento mori for a society saturated by social media.
Adam specialises in hard-hitting self-help books for adults, with his signature wicked humour and swearing to accompany the uncomfortable in-your-face lessons. He is here to get yourself in gear, get off that sofa, and think hard about whether you’ll be happy to die having made it to level 8,000 on Candy Crush.
Turn the page on this podcast to experience Adam’s writing journey, with top tips on making the most of this mortal life, as well as the importance of understanding who you are and what really makes you happy.
Turn the page (the time-stamp!)
[00:59] So, tell us a little bit about the book! What inspired you to write it?
[01:23] Memento mori
[03:03] At the back of the book is a cut-out memento mori
[04:02] Addictions are linked to avoidance
[09:32] What was your happiest moment in the process?
[13:34] Political correctness in publishing
[17:24] If you could do anything differently in this process what would it be?
[19:51] Read aloud function on Word
[20:04] Dealing with negativity
[22:33] What is your top-tip for aspiring authors?
[23:42] How did you market your book?
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TOPICS COVERED IN THIS EPISODE INCLUDE:
Death
Dying
Mortality
Memento mori
Self-awareness
Nonfiction
Self-publishing
Book marketing
The self-publishing process
Writing your first book
Social norms
Attitudes towards death
Dealing with negativity
Political correctness
Tips for authors
Microsoft Word
Ameesha
Welcome to Better Shelves, the podcast from The Book Shelf Ltd. We help aspiring authors to create aspiring nonfiction books. We’re based in Birmingham, but we work with authors across the globe, and our mission is to make the world a better place through books.
Hi, Adam, or should I say AJ1? Thanks for joining us on the Better Shelves Podcast. Obviously, I will say congratulations on publishing your book, but it wasn’t recently, was it? It was a couple of months ago.
Adam
I think it was nearly 12 months ago now.
Ameesha
That long?
Adam
Yep!
Ameesha
Wow. Time flies. So, also, I should say, as a disclaimer, at the beginning: anyone who doesn’t like swearing, I warn you in advance, there’s a lot of swearing in the book. There is a swear count in the beginning and it’s called, ‘You Are Going to Fucking Die.’ So, if you don’t like swearing, switch off now!
Adam
Yep. You’re live on Channel 4: please do not swear.
Ameesha
Yes, do you want to tell us a little bit about what the book’s about? What inspired you to write it?
Adam
I do! Well, it’s called, as you’ve most eloquently put, ‘You are Going to Fucking Die.’ It’s obviously a headline-grabbing title to alert people that they are mortal, that we’ve only have one chance at life, and we shouldn’t waste our time on the planet. The premise is from something called ‘Memento Mori’ which a colleague of mine, Chris, who you’ve met, actually, and was on his podcast, I believe. He told me about the concept of Memento Mori which is Latin for something like “you will die.”
Ameesha
“You are going to fucking die?”
Adam
No, no, not “you are going to fucking die,” they didn’t use the ‘fucking’ bit. But the idea is, that back in the day, you would carry around a skull or something that would represent death, which would make you, you know, give you a sense of urgency to go and out take chances, live your life, rather than hiding away… being worried about what other people think. I think it’s really relevant at this moment in time, giving the fact that, social media gives everybody exposure to everything. You know, peoples’ lives are on the screen and on podcasts, you know, CCTV, and everything. People are so scared now of doing and being what they want… You’ve had to put a disclaimer on this about swearing when–back in the day–they were swearing on Transformers, the cartoon! I do think it is for people who may have withdrawn, or started to judge people, on things they do. Really, you should just be focusing on your own life, making the best of it-uh, I should say, making a mess of it-
Ameesha
Yep.
Adam
Making the best of your life that you have at this moment in time because you may not wake up tomorrow. I was going to say “wake up tomorrow dead,” but you may not wake up tomorrow. I want people to live that fantastic life that we’ve all been given the gift of.
Ameesha
Awesome. Very succinctly put.
Adam
I don’t think it was that succinct! But…
Ameesha
Yeah, don’t waste your time on podcasts! Kidding! I totally agree with you. I have a little skull on my bookshelf, actually, that I picked up in Mexico. I have it as a reminder.
Adam
Yep. Definitely. So, in the back of the book, there is a cut-out of Memento Mori. And the idea is you can just cut that out and stick it on your fridge. Reading the book, Memento Mori itself, and the fact that it is a reminder of death. I know that sounds really morbid. A lot of people have said to me: “I’m not scared of death. I just don’t want to think about it.” That’s the point! You’re not thinking about it, and you’re not thinking that you’ve got a limited number of days. You’re, actually, just spending your time, not necessarily wasting time, but definitely not maximising the time having all that you could have. I mean, “grasp the nettle” and all of those clichés.
Ameesha
No, I think it’s such a good point. We, actually, don’t really talk about death. I think, as a society, we all seem scared of talking about it, and we like to pretend it’s not going to happen.
Adam
Yep.
Ameesha
I don’t think that’s a very good place to be in. So, yep, let’s all talk about death.
Adam
Well, since I’ve read the book, uh sorry, since I’ve written the book…
Ameesha
Did you write it? Are you sure?
Adam
It was me! Honest! I’ve read, recently, that, uh, alcohol addiction, gambling, porn addiction, drug addiction… all of the negative things which are deemed to be negative have linked back to the fear of death; the avoidance of thinking about death. So, you use these things–also gaming addiction as well–you use these things to avoid any quiet time for your mind to, actually, think about the concept that you may die. I find it fascinating that we do that. I’ve experienced a couple of those addictions myself and I, uh, if I really think long and hard, I do probably think they link back to, not necessarily not thinking about death, but worse things that could happen. You know, perhaps other peoples’ deaths, or negative things that could happen in my life that may lead to death. I think that’s where everything links back to. You know, you’re worried about your job because, ultimately, if you don’t have a job, you don’t earn money, you can’t eat food, you can’t provide for your family… that links, in caveman terms, to death! So, we’ve just transposed the caveman mentality of going out, hunting and gathering, and being-just trying to survive day-to-day, and we’ve transposed those onto modern life things.
Ameesha
Yeah. It’s a fair point, actually. On that note, how did you, sort of, balance writing a book alongside having a day job? Not just one book! You have multiple books!
Adam
I have multiple books! So, two self-help books. So, this one, and a book called The Money Mistakes of Mom and Dad which we’ve just discussed potentially rebranding or repurposing. And I’ve got two children’s books about my parents being cartoon characters that turn into a ninja or a pirate for their grandkids–which are my children. So, how did I balance it? So, children’s books, I write really quickly. I don’t need to balance that at all, because I enjoy them and they’re for the kids, and I’ve already written them in my mind to tell the kids. They’re no-brainers. I just sit down and write away. As for the books aimed at adults, with the swearing in the titles, obviously, I found I did a lot of late-night writing. I would have a few beers and, then, start writing the content. I found the-when I get an idea for a chapter, I sit down with the concept, and just write. When I’d write, I’d write for hours on end which was great. But then when I didn’t have an idea for a chapter, I couldn’t write at all. I couldn’t sit down without the concept or the chapter in my mind to begin with. And I dealt with The Book Shelf at the time, with yourself and your team, when I was coming to the end of the book to just sort-of really solidify the order and you guys helped me out with the editing which was really useful because they were written in separate chunks of time-that I’d got lots of concepts that overlapped. I’d got lots of concepts that didn’t match where they were in the book. So, we came up with the idea of having the different sections so we’d got Life and Death, Living and Dying, and then a conclusion. You gave me the, uh, the way of splitting it so it made sense and it made… when I read it back, it made a lot more sense to me as a reader. So, I think the difficulty was really having the concept to latch onto. Once the concept was there, I found it good. A lot of late night working and I did, towards the end, take a week off work to actually focus on the book, as well. Just to give it that last final push because I felt like it could have just lay in my saved folder on my laptop forever. I think a lot of writers are like that. I really needed that push and you gave me a lot of inspiration. You were coaching me to get through. So, I think, towards the end, I needed a team. I feel like I haven’t started my book, the ideas are whizzing around but, I’d like to actually get all of the chapters so I really, just, sit down, and absolutely nail it in one go.
Ameesha
Yeah, so one of the things I’ve really been encouraging people is to, actually, start working with an editor sooner. If you’ve got an editor who’s a coach, they can, actually, get you on the right track before you’ve-maybe, even before you’ve started writing. And you’re just so much more focused. And if you’ve got that outline, where you’ve got your chapter, headings, and you’ve got your subheadings within, then you can just sit and write in an organised way. It’s so much easier. I know people who are reluctant to get an editor involved that early. They think, “Oh, I need my first draft,” or something. But, actually, you can avoid so much of that hands-on editing and especially, like, the structural editing later on if you just, talk to them at the beginning, get them to check a couple of chapters, read your introduction and go, “You know what? Yeah, great. Crack on!” You know, rather than at the end, when you’ve got a way through–60,000 words–that’s got, like, no structure to it whatsoever!
Adam
You know, I think the first book I wrote was just to see if I could write a book. It wasn’t-I never had any desire, well… I had desire to be an author. But I’d never really thought that, that could, actually, be a reality! Other than, just, self-publishing my own book to say that I’d done it. So, I started that book on my honeymoon. It might’ve been a bit of a mid-life crisis.
Ameesha
I don’t think many people write books on their honeymoon!
Adam
No! Well, I was just writing it on my mobile… You know, I’m a Communications Manager, by trade, so I’d always write press releases and blogs and things like that. And it was only after I’d completed the first book and published it that I thought, “Actually that was so easy to do. I really feel like I could do another one and put a lot more effort into it, and substance, and wordsmithing around it.” Rather than, just, trying to get the book out at all costs. It was this book. And it’s a lot thicker, there’s a lot more structure. I engaged an editor. It actually feels like I’m an author now of a book that I’m very proud of to say, “Oh, would you like to read my book? Would you like to get my book from Amazon?” So, that’s–it’s definitely a good thing–I think I’ve forgotten the question now.
Ameesha
Was there a question? Actually, it’s fine. So, yeah, one question is: what was your happiest moment in the whole process?”
Adam
That’s a really good question. I think my happiest moments have been when people and people with their children have had photographs with the books. So, with the kid’s books, they’re there holding them–the book–putting them on Instagram and Facebook and social media. That’s been really heart-warming. And I think in that moment, the book–the fact that people have gone to Amazon and bought the books, and then they’ve got them and then sent back to me that they read them with their grandkids or their children. And, also, I’ve had a moment, during the middle of lockdown, someone said that they were reading this book and it was helping them, no-end, because they were having trouble with work. And they said that the book was just what they needed. I can remember when I received the message… I was walking with my wife and son down the road opposite where I am now… and it just sort of hit me that someone was reading the book! Once you launch it into the world, it’s almost like, “Bye! See you later!” and you don’t, sort of, think about it until you’re asked a question about it or you receive a message or a photo. So, I think that one was the real standout moment for me that they were using it for positive. It’s meant to be… you know, we all use the term ‘self-help’ but it’s really meant to be written in a language that really does hit people hard and swear in it!
Ameesha
A lot!
Adam
I take the piss out of people in it. I use personal–very, very personal stories that have happened to me in it, in order to get those messages across. So, people don’t have to feel as shit as I do; for as long as I did. I was going through some real emotional problems. I think once I started to realise that time was ticking on, you know, the time from 22 to 42, now has gone in an instant. I want people to understand that: don’t wait for that moment of realising that it’s too late. Listen to me now as I say: it goes so quick. So have a read of the book, and see how you, you know, see what I’ve learnt. Hopefully, I’ve done it in a way that’s humorous but also in a way that gets people–gives people a kick up the arse to start living.
Ameesha
Yeah!
Adam
We’re all here to live. We’re not all here to put a selfie on fucking Instagram or Facebook or something like that.
Ameesha
Do you know what? It’s so true. I notice myself doing it now. So, obviously, one of the benefits of me working on books is I learn a lot. I learn from every book I work on. There are a few things that stuck out to me in yours that I still think about now. And one of them was the: “How long are you spending on Instagram?” Well, because I’m a perfectionist and you know, that’s a benefit of being a book editor, you do have to be a perfectionist, but then, when I’m trying to get the perfect Instagram photo for my-my main feed which is my photography kind-of side hobby. And I’m like, “Why am I spending so much time on this when people are going to scroll past it in a few minutes?”
Adam
Yep!
Ameesha
It is just a waste of time. And the one that still gets me is people going to gigs and them not watching the gig because they’re so busy filming the gig! I went to Download Festival a couple of weeks ago and I literally looked around me and, I was like, everyone’s just filming it! They’re not actually enjoying the experience!
Adam
Yeah, and who goes back to look at that footage? Who, honestly, goes back and looks at the footage of a gig that they went to, and they couldn’t see, either on YouTube or some other– if you’re not recording it, some other prat is! So, look at their video! They’re probably sitting next to you! Funnily enough we watched a documentary on Glastonbury; on the history of Glastonbury so it went from 1985, or whenever it started, and they had the new-age travellers arrive and things like that. Right through to now with Stormzy and, you know, the lessons they’d learned to get somebody from the BME background as a headline–that was their journey. And the early footage of the nineties, which was my era of watching it on TV, there were hardly any cameraphones. There were just flags and people having a great time. To now, where it’s like–everybody has their hand up in the air, taking phone footage. I’m thinking to myself… they’re missing the gig! They’re looking at it through a camera. They’re not looking at it through themselves. I think I describe it as: you’re not being yourself at a gig, you’re being a cameraman at the gig. So, why not live the experience? I think this is problem with social media. Opinions have changed. Why can’t we allow people to forget or, at least, judge them on what they were-of the time they were in. Is really what I’m saying. There will things that have been said today on this podcast that I’ll be judged for! Fuck it! I’ll be a different person tomorrow and let this be a fact of me. It’s just a snapshot of me today.
Ameesha
I think one of the questions for the publishing industry, generally, is the kind of balance between freedom of speech and saying whatever you want to say, and also thinking about: is it potentially going to be offensive? Could it be taken the wrong way? I don’t think the publishing industry has quite got where to draw the line yet. As a Publishing Company or as an Editor, how far do you go in telling someone, “You probably shouldn’t say that.” Obviously, we’ve had these conversations during the editing process where I said, “You know this is all right, but this might be taken the wrong way. You might want to reconsider it.” You know, I think as an Editor, it’s part of my duty to tell someone: “Actually I think this is going to come across really badly.” And then, it’s the author’s choice what they do with that. But, I think it is a broader question for the Publishing Industry, especially for the whole ‘cancel culture.” The amount of authors who have been cancelled! Actually it’s difficult–we wrote a blog about it last year. Kind if talking more about personal accountability and responsibility rather than cancel culture. So, people can engage in actual discussions rather than just being silenced. I think it’s a really big issue. I think it’s something that the publishing industry hasn’t properly addressed. Rather than addressing it, they are just going, “okay we’re just not going to publish that person.” It’s an industry where people are putting their opinions out there and some people have very strong opinions so it inherently comes with the ground we’re on.
Adam
Yeah. As a human being, funny enough I had a similar conversation with my parents over the weekend because I started working in the WEB3 space with NFTs, and the Metaverse, and the concept that you can have a life in a virtual world. I was talking to my parents about that and they were said they wouldn’t ever do that. They wouldn’t want to do that. And I said, “you may or you may want to at some point. But it’s because you’re scared and non onboard with the technology.” But if your grandkid will only engage with you on a headset then you would figure out a way. During lockdown, you advanced–elderly people or older people or nontechnical people–advanced their minds around using phones and Facebook and Twitter and everything else. It was out of need and necessity. There’s a film with Christian Bale in from back in the 90s called Equilibrium and it’s about not feeling anything. So, they ban all artwork and poetry and music. They give these people a tablet to just accept what they’re told and not ‘rock the boat’ and because they say emotion is the root of all death and evil–obviously we’re bringing it back to death again! You know, where do we draw the line? Because, at the moment, what we’re doing is we say, “We don’t like that! So, we’ll cancel it.” So, we don’t experience it and we can’t learn from it. That’s the bit I’m worried about! We can’t learn from things people are saying. I swear like a fucking trooper in this book and I’ve got messages from people where it’s helping someone. If somebody decides that swearing is so inappropriate that Amazon wouldn’t stock it, then that person wouldn’t have been helped by my book! So, we’ve got to experience all forms of life. We should be allowed to challenge it, yes–but not completely wipe it from the planet. But not completely suppress it into darker areas of the internet; of the world. You will never wipe the opinions and the realities of those people from the planet. You will just take it out of the mainstream which is a lot more dangerous.
Ameesha
Mm. Yeah, and on that note about learning, if you could do anything differently in this process of writing books and self-publishing, what would it be? You can’t say nothing now because you’re all about learning!
Adam
I know, yeah. If I could do something different… I would definitely engage with an editor first. I would–and this is really important and really key: is not listen to anybody else. Listen to your own heart and don’t worry about it. Don’t wait for perfection. Publish something. As long as it reads right and it’s grammatically as correct as it can be–you might have a stray punctuation or full stops or extra words written the same or whatever. But don’t let that stop you from getting your message out into the world because I fear that there are so many people with ideas; so much talent out there that they’re worried about cancel culture now more so. You know, also the opinion of others–of it being good or bad. It’s so subjective. You should just put it out into the world and let people decide rather than waiting for this, sort of, hidden approval of yourself that you think other people might think.
Ameesha
Yeah. I think a lot of people do that. They spend so much time trying to perfect it. And it probably sounds a bit ironic for an editor to say: “Just put it out there!” But when I say to people, “When you’re 95% happy with it… put it out there.” Yeah, it might have a couple of typos or something you missed or something you want to go back and change later. The beauty of Amazon is you can put a new copy–a new version on there. If there’s something you want to change. You know, I think we’ve gotten into this kind of culture where a typo is horrific. And it’s like you can’t have typos in your book. When actually, I can forgive typos. We all make typos. Our brains are not designed to spot our own typos, which is something I’m constantly banging onto people about. Our brains are not designed for it. And, actually, I can forgive a couple of typos in a book, but I can’t forgive a lack of structure or crap content. I think that’s the thing we should be focusing on! Is the book actually taking people on a journey? Is the content inherently valuable? Not if there’s something spelt wrong somewhere, or if there’s a stray full-stop.
Adam
Yeah! I think you helped me become better at typos by listening back to my… so the ‘Read Aloud’ function on Word has been my Bible to me in, both, my writing career and professional career. It’s… I mean don’t get me wrong, there are still anomalies in there that are typos that sound fine when you listen to them on the replay, but, on the whole, it does reduce a lot of typos. I completely agree… because we’re going to die, we need to get it out there before we’re dead! We’re going to fucking die. We need to get that book out and take a risk and let yourself experience negative feedback because negative feedback is… yes, it’s someone else’s perception and it may sting a little in the first instance. I’ve had some negative comments about my kid’s books and about my adult books. And, at the time, because you’ve put your heart and soul into it, it feels like someone’s took your heart out and put it on the floor and stamped on it. But then, when you have the distance of time between the comment and the feeling. You can actually read it for what it is. Or you process it. Or you go back to write the next book. You can actually take that feedback on board and think, “Okay I can choose to do something about it or I can view that as one person’s opinion of it.” I do think that we have to:
1. Encourage our kids to be less sensitive, you know, I’m not a big fan and this might be a controversial opinion. I didn’t realise I was coming onto News Night or whatever. I don’t agree with everybody getting a medal in a race at school. I think there should be a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. We should encourage people to try and win. If they don’t win, they come in a place and they have that place. Not everybody’s a winner because that’s not what life is like. I’m sorry to say. Life isn’t everyone’s a winner. If you can’t take losing or experience a negative outcome, then when you get into the real world and there are negative outcomes all over the shop. People are dying, there we go, bringing it back to death. Then, you will be really struggling to handle that loss and that feeling of, you know… Really what school is teaching you is how to deal with life, isn’t it? And if we’re not encouraging people to experience loss, then, when we’re adults we’ll be saying, “Right. Everybody else is doing crap and there’s one person doing brilliant. You all get a promotion.” OK. So, your business model is shit and you’re going to fail your business and our industry will fail. You know, we’re potentially encouraging the downfall of, at least, business, if not, society. If we don’t let people experience losing at some point. Whether it be a physical loss, a person, or the feeling of loss from a competition.
Ameesha
Yep. Awesome. So, if you had one tip for aspiring authors, what would it be? Your top, number-one tip.
Adam
Just fucking do it.
Ameesha
Get it out there before you die.
Adam
Yeah, actually write it and launch it because people are gonna judge you no matter what you do. So, at least let them judge something that you fucking put some effort in. Don’t just sit on your hands, thinking of a great idea for a book and not sharing it with the world. I want to read it. Ameesha wants to read it. Everybody wants to read it. If it’s shit? Yes, it’s shit. However, at least you know, you can learn from that and improve on it. If you sit on it–it’s shit. You wait until the last minute and you’ve got no chance to use the learnings from the negative feedback.
Ameesha
Yep. That’s a fair point. Just do it.
Adam
Just fucking do it.
Ameesha
As Nike say, or Nike,or whatever they’re called….
Adam
I’m like the alternative Nike. Just fucking do it.
Ameesha
Awesome. Actually, you just mentioned there about getting the book out. How did you find marketing? Because it’s the most difficult part of self-publishing for a lot of people.
Adam
Yeah, so, I find that Facebook forums and groups are good. I’m a member of ‘Write that Book’ by Michael Hepple. He’s a… he did a book called, ‘How to be Brilliant.’ His Facebook group is really, really positive, and really inspirational because you hear people doing really good things with their books, but also in their lives. I found that by doing giveaways are really good because people, sort of, get the chance to… If you’re a new author, obviously, people don’t know what you’re like. I find it funny, actually, that people wouldn’t hesitate to try a new food in the frozen section from the supermarket that was, say, £4-£5, but people hesitate to buy a book for £5.99 from Amazon because it might not be very good. You’ve got that book as a physical item, but the food might taste like dog shit. You know, and it will end up in the bin, regardless. It will end up… whereas this book could change your life. You know, to be fair, I listen to audiobooks more than I read physical books because I do a lot of driving to get my son and with work. But I think that the marketing aspect is just do everything. Get on podcasts like this, get on Youtube channels, speak to people, network, you know, anybody! I take it a couple… these books I’ve got next to me are ones out of my bag that I take on the train with my laptop because I give them away. I also pretend to read it so people see the title and I hope that someone will look it up.
Ameesha
Oh my god. I love that. That’s amazing!
Adam
Yeah, so, you know, marketing is all… You know, I’m a marketing director by trade and all marketing is experimentation so you never know what’s going to sell your book or promote it. My view is that if you get one person to look it up on Amazon and buy it, then you’ve succeeded. Just one person who you don’t know. I could die a happy man. Which is what the book is all about!
Ameesha
Oh, I’m glad. Well, that wraps it up nicely, I think!
Adam
And I apologise for all of the swearing and inappropriateness. You know, I think we… I saw a quote the other day that said, “Be more yourself all of the time so other people can relax and be themselves.” And I thought that was really good.
Ameesha
I really like that! Yeah, I thought you were going to say, “Be more dog!”
Adam
Yeah! Be more dog! Look, you know, we spend so much time worrying about other peoples’ opinions that, you know, the length of time that you’re on the planet… what a waste of time. What a waste of precious minutes.
Ameesha
You know what, it’s funny, I actually screenshotted something that I saw this morning and it said, “Oh, I don’t try to hide my weird. I like to wave it around. It scares off the boring people and it’s like a beacon for my fellow weirdos.”
Adam
I love that. Are you a member of my Facebook group?
Ameesha
I am!
Adam
Yeah, so, ‘You Are Going to Fucking Die,’ our Facebook group, you can post that on there. I like to post quotes on there. At least every day.
Ameesha
I thought it was pretty good! I was thinking… the amount of time we do spend trying to fit in with society and, sort of, present the best versions of ourselves… I think this is obviously a social media thing, it’s like you’ve got to show the best version of yourself, when, actually, do you know what? I’m weird and I don’t mind. Let’s just encourage everyone to just be their weird selves. Not in a dangerous way!
Adam
A colleague said to me the other day, “You’re weird, and I like it.” and I was like, “OK, I’ll take it.” Because you don’t want to assume you’re weird yourself. It’s only when someone reflects it back to you that you find out that you’re weird. I find everyone weird. I find the fact that we as animals, walk around in clothes, and have boxes and pieces of paper to mark our land. I find that, you know, I find that weird!
Ameesha
That we write books!
Adam
Yeah! We write books to help other people. I am me! AJ1/Adam Jones/Ball of Molecules that Walks Around and Swears a Lot.
Ameesha
A slab of meat–that’s all we are really.
Adam
Long Pigs. That’s what cannibals call us: Long Pigs. Apparently, we taste like bacon.
Ameesha
Oh, I didn’t know that, but thank you for that. Anyhow!
Adam
Learn something new everyday.
Ameesha
On that note, thank you so much for chatting to us today. Enjoy your day.
Adam
That’s all right.
Ameesha
And remember that you are going to fucking die someday!
Adam
I will remember it because I have my Memento Mori here and I’ve got my book.
Ameesha
Just got five copies just sat in my bag!
Adam
Yeah, but yes, but also, if anybody wants to follow me on Instagram, I am @AJ1Books. I haven’t got a social media person at the moment, so I’m not very active, but if you message me I’ll send you a free book!
Ameesha
Oh, that’s nice!
Adam
If you quote, ‘Book Shelf Podcast.’
Ameesha
Love it. Everyone loves a free book, don’t they?
Adam
And a plug for the podcast!
Ameesha
Thank you! Thanks Adam!
Adam
Bye!
Ameesha
We can’t wait for you to join us as we talk more about writing, publishing, and self-improvement on this podcast. And we’d love to hear from you! What tips would you find useful? What questions do you need answered?
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In the next chapter, we’ll be speaking to Katie Gray author of The Empowered Heart, you might’ve heard Katie on our intro music with her beautiful song ‘Set Free’ which you can find on all streaming platforms. Stay tuned to hear what she has to say.
Thanks for listening to the Better Shelves podcast, we’ll see you in the next chapter!